Wie viel Markup ist gerechtfertigt, ab wann ist es schlicht und einfach Betrug? Die Poker-Community diskutierter über Phil Hellmuth und sein Verhalten beim $300K Super High Roller Bowl.
Phil Hellmuth ist einer der beliebtesten Poker-Pros überhaupt. Selbst seine Verbindung zur Skandal-Plattform Ultimate Bet fügten dem baumlangen US-Amerikaner keinen dauerhaften Imageschaden zu.
Dass The Poker Brat polarisiert zeigt die jüngste Diskussion. Phil Hellmuth gehörte zu den 48 Spielern, die den $300.000 High Roller Bowl spielen durften. Trotz des hohen Buy-Ins und des starken Feldes, trat der 53 Jährige verspätet an den Tisch.
Stuck in traffic @phil_hellmuth ?
Don’t worry. 267.5k left pic.twitter.com/QQFFwtMbkw— Steffen Sontheimer (@RunGo0seRun) May 27, 2018
Steffen Sontheimer war jedoch nicht der Einzige, der sich über Hellmuth lustig machte. Scott Seiver bemängelte Hellmuths Professionalität und hinterfragte, wie viel Action der Altmeister hält.
Here’s your regular reminder that when @phil_hellmuth trashes people for having small pieces of themselves in a super high roller he is 100% guaranteed to have the smallest piece of himself of any single person that played the event. #HYPOCRISY
— Scott Seiver (@scott_seiver) May 28, 2018
Dies war der Anstoß für eine rege Diskussion. Phil Hellmuth verteidigte sich und berichtete, dass er $60.000 im Super High Roller hält. Auch das Markup von bis zu 1.8, welches er bei vielen Staking-Abmachungen verlangt, sind in seinen Augen gerechtfertigt.
I had 20% of myself Scott. You said “100% GTD,” lay me 50-to-1 on this for $10,000? Of course, anyone trading pieces to where they have less than 20%, I win https://t.co/0SOPUhhqOV
— phil_hellmuth (@phil_hellmuth) May 28, 2018
Hmmm…I’ve sold two tourneys on @YouStake, both @WPT ‘s, and I cashed for over $50,000 both times (12th and 7th). I showed up on Day 2 for both (late late), does that mean I didn’t put “Some effort” in? Great returns for those who invested! And yes, I’ll prob show up late! https://t.co/WDVm2DZRcA
— phil_hellmuth (@phil_hellmuth) May 28, 2018
„it’s ok guys, I burn EV for my investors in every event so it’s not a big deal“ https://t.co/83U98JKtxk
— Max Silver (@max_silver) May 28, 2018
@DominikNitsche @shaundeeb lol ???? pic.twitter.com/hqd5EDO1g6
— ♣️♥️♠️♦️ (@STACKNupYOchips) May 29, 2018
When @phil_hellmuth charges 1.8 markup for a 10k TURBO KNOCKOUT, there should be an SEC investigation because he is literally defrauding people out of their money. You should be embarrassed to hustle people out of their $20 investments. Absolutely pathetic
— Scott Seiver (@scott_seiver) May 28, 2018
Pretending that uneducated investors should do their due diligence else suffer the consequences is lazy. It implies we as a community should punish ignorance in a cannibalistic way– something we largely police, i.e. angles, thieves, unfair edge seekers who prey upon ignorance
— matt berkey (@berkey11) May 29, 2018
Matt – I posted two $10k tournies lifetime on @YouStake and cashed for over $50,000 both times. I have best R. O. I. In history (see USA Today article a few years back). I believe my mark up is warranted. You have issue w that. But you use the word “Cannibalistic,” really? https://t.co/obs1eR6Xaf
— phil_hellmuth (@phil_hellmuth) May 29, 2018
Ryan – as often is the case, i disagree w the math. I believe that for $1 invested in me at @WSOP in Hold’em tourneys, I’ve cashed for over $3. I realize that I’m the outlier on the R.O.I. chart, but it’s a fact #PHOutlier https://t.co/4oBzqBNCzO
— phil_hellmuth (@phil_hellmuth) May 29, 2018
Guess this was easier than being objective and considering all positions… #Positivity pic.twitter.com/gr5jQwlya9
— matt berkey (@berkey11) May 29, 2018